Friday, August 04, 2006

Go to Heaven!

Supporters of Hezbollah in Lebanon today are confident of their victory. They have survived therefore they win. Israel killed hundreds of Lebanese and destroyed our infrastructure and still Hezbollah won. Hundred of thousands of refugees and Hezbollah supporters say that they are victorious.

If this is victory, what is defeat?

Maybe Hassan Nasrallah can explain to me what he meant when he said that if his fighters retreat it is not important because it is just a little bit of land and it is not precious enough to hold on to.

What are the Shebaa Farms then? A little bit of unpopulated land?

What are the 3 prisoners held in Israel compared to the hundreds of children that Israel killed?

Get out of Lebanon Hassan and take your ideology of death and hate with you. Take your supporters and your complexes and go to your beloved Islamic Republic of Iran.

Leave us, the people who actually believe in a country called Lebanon, alone. You are not part of us. Go live your Islamic battles somewhere else. Go to heaven and let us live in the pro-American hell in peace and prosperity like many other places in the Middle East and Asia.


Blogger FreeCyprus said...

They will not leave if they continue to have some support from the Lebanese population. 5% support they may leave, but 40% support they will stay.

Just my two drachmas...

-- FreeCyprus
Hellenic Reporter

04 August, 2006 19:20  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i"m realy proud at you, finnaly you figure it out that Nasrallah dont care about you. the Qana mistake was only because Nasrallah is using you as a humen shileds, he doesn"t care about pepole or land only he cares for is the dengerous religous little games that he playes on your becks. i think that in this war there is no wining in both sides , i hope that you will have your "american hell" & the pepole of isreal will have it too & to the HIS i wish only simple hell. enjoy Hassan with your little sick ming & go to hell do us a favour .
for the writer of this note i wish a realy good life, it intrest me if you stey in Leb or left. i promise you that in the end it will be normal again in both sides , i realy like your blog

04 August, 2006 19:28  
Anonymous Outraged! said...

Mr. Anonymous 19:28, your Israeli propaganda might work on the ignorant, but on us. Yes, Hizbollah is not representative of Lebanon, and their ideology is not the country's. But Qana - the massacre in Qana - is the IDF's doing. Them and only them. I guess Hamas needs to "warn" the settlers to leave their illegal "kibutz" and then bomb and kill the hell out of those who don't (or simply can't!) leave. Whose hands will their blood be on? The Israelis?.

Israeli "PR" people should leave these blogs and take their propaganda with them. Unless you are ready to speak intelligently, better stay quiet.

04 August, 2006 21:07  
Anonymous Unsheltered in the Galilee said...

A question to the Lebanese, I hear that all of south Lebanon has been bombed and the south of Beirut, does that mean that all Shiite Lebanese are homeless now? does that weaken them?

04 August, 2006 21:57  
Anonymous who said...

Email and post this news story, expose the cyber "Israel" supporters for who they are,,3-2289232,00.html

Israel backed by army of cyber-soldiers
From Yonit Farago in Jerusalem

WHILE Israel fights Hezbollah with tanks and aircraft, its supporters are campaigning on the internet.
Israel’s Government has thrown its weight behind efforts by supporters to counter what it believes to be negative bias and a tide of pro-Arab propaganda. The Foreign Ministry has ordered trainee diplomats to track websites and chatrooms so that networks of US and European groups with hundreds of thousands of Jewish activists can place supportive messages.

In the past week nearly 5,000 members of the World Union of Jewish Students (WUJS) have downloaded special “megaphone” software that alerts them to anti-Israeli chatrooms or internet polls to enable them to post contrary viewpoints. A student team in Jerusalem combs the web in a host of different languages to flag the sites so that those who have signed up can influence an opinion survey or the course of a debate.

Jonny Cline, of the international student group, said that Jewish students and youth groups with their understanding of the web environment were ideally placed to present another side to the debate.

“We’re saying to these people that if Israel is being bashed, don’t ignore it, change it,” Mr Cline said. “A poll like CNN’s takes just a few seconds to vote in, but if thousands take part the outcome will be changed. What’s vital is that the international face of the conflict is balanced.”

Doron Barkat, 29, in Jerusalem, spends long nights trawling the web to try to swing the debate Israel’s way. “When I see internet polls for or against Israel I send out a mailing list to vote for Israel,” he said. “It can be that after 15 minutes there will be 400 votes for Israel.

“It’s very satisfying. There are also forums where Lebanese and Israelis talk.”

Israel’s Foreign Ministry must avoid direct involvement with the campaign but is in contact with international Jewish and evangelical Christian groups, distributing internet information packs.

Amir Gissin, the Israeli Foreign Ministry’s public relations director, said: “The internet’s become a leading tool for news, shaping the world view of millions. Our problem is the foreign media shows Lebanese suffering, but not Israeli. We’re bypassing that filter by distributing pictures showing how northern Israelis suffer from Katyusha rocket attacks.”

04 August, 2006 22:39  
Blogger Achillea said...


You might be interested in this article:

Suicide Bombers vs. Suicide Settlers


I'm sure you'd like to dismiss all dissenting voices with the ad hominem of 'Israeli propagandists' rather than actually trying to face their arguments' considerable merit. It's a cowardly and ineffective way of convincing anyone of your point of view, but it's entirely up to you. (And, for the record, I am not Israeli or even Jewish).

04 August, 2006 23:39  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi , everybody

The last post fits completely my point of view.

I'm also sure , that most of non-Shia Lebanese don't support Hizballa , also there are many moderate Shiis ( Amal ).

I recommend everybody study the history of modern Lebanon and its tragic fate . Only this way it is possible to understand the phenomenon of a "state within a state".

Also I believe that after a comprehensive peace treaty between Israel and Lebanon will be signed , Lebanon will stand from the ashes in the very short period.

I also would like to react to mr. outraged 21:07 : I shall not leave this blog or any other blog ! It's my way to try protect my country. If we don't follow the state of art technologies , it is not possible to survive among the sea of arabs.

By the way , if you mention "illegal kibbutz" - YOU show your ignorancy . No kibbutz lays in so called "occupied territories" so there is no reason for HAMAS to fire rockets on them !

Also , in foreseeble future ,I shall not post at Syrian or Iranian blogs because they are my enemies and there is no room for argument. It's just waste of time , like a conversation of a deaf with a blind. But I do respect Lebanese people , I see in them my neighbours , I am interested in the independent , strong and prosperous Lebanon , and for now I feel sorry for what had happened to that country.

Bye for now , Ma'a salama and Shabbat shalom


04 August, 2006 23:47  
Blogger Carmel said...

thanks for your sane voice. i feel it is sane even when you hate us. you're glued to your perspective as i am to mine but it's people like us who can hold those paradoxes, who will be able to make peace some day.

Israel has more peace and negotiations seekers than fanatic ideologists. and some of those fanatic ideologists will still listen to something they can surely trust. i don't blame them for being paranoid when it comes to Arabic promises, since every land we gave back was immediately filled with terrorist firing at us from closer range.

unfortunately, people like you are still outnumbered in Arab countries. i hope we'll still be alive to see peace and tourism between our countries.

i invite you to our israeli women blog

05 August, 2006 01:16  
Anonymous Dorit, Tel Aviv said...

zadigvoltaire! You are so brave, so right.

It is encouraging to hear the voice of sane Lebanon.

I'm sure you are not alone and there are many Labanese who fill the same. I believe that once they will rise up a new era will come to Lebanon and the middle east.

You are the light at the end of the tunnel.

05 August, 2006 03:09  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

apparently... finally we seem to agree on most things you said in your post, Zadig.


05 August, 2006 03:40  
Anonymous Iranian said...

Fuck that, you can take our mullahs! Afterall, Iran was only turned Shia thanks to the Lebanese clerics that were brought in and violently promoted during the Safavid era. Iran was prodominently Sunni a mere 500 years ago.

05 August, 2006 05:09  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i know for sure, that hezbollah prevents lebanies to escape. they are standing armed in junctions and sending back the civilians to their villages in order to provide the hezbollah a humen shelter. in other words - hezbollah send them to die.
after those poor people die naserallah crowns them shaheeds.
you wish him heaven... he wish you hell. unfotunatly his wishes become true.

05 August, 2006 05:30  
Anonymous D.S. Israel said...

Well said!

I agee with you and appraise your courage.

I hope may other Lebanese will follow you.

05 August, 2006 11:39  
Anonymous confused said...

By the way , if you mention "illegal kibbutz" - YOU show your ignorancy . No kibbutz lays in so called "occupied territories" so there is no reason for HAMAS to fire rockets on them !

Are we referring to the colonies in West Bank? The ones around which Israel would like to build a wall? Or are there other constructions I don't know about?

05 August, 2006 16:09  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was in Beirut in 1982-83 with multinational peackeeping force, Israel is doing what we should have done 23 year ago when they bombed our barracks at Beirut international airport. If the United states would have dealt with hezbolla then maybe the world wouldn't have the problems we have know with these islamic fanatics.

We should stand behind Israel with all our support. Anyone supporting hezbolla or hamas thinking their freedom fighters, is a very misguided person. I can promise you from first hand experience, they"d just as well harm you and your family as well as mine. Think about that!!! Anyone thinking they going to heaven with 72 virgins waiting after blowing themselves up and killing innocent people isn't a logical person. WAKE UP PEOPLE AND SMELL THE COFFEE!!!

06 August, 2006 03:56  
Anonymous just a thought said...

"If the United states would have dealt with hezbolla then maybe the world wouldn't have the problems we have know with these islamic fanatics."

What problems do "the world" have with Hezbollah? Israel and now Lebanon have the problem, and it could have been dealt with in another way.

06 August, 2006 13:13  
Blogger cheickspeare said...

Hezbollah has won this war till now.
Because this war is not about arms and soldiers but is about image and death.
Image for the hezbollah because to exist in front of the cameras after all this bombing is victory. Because to send katioushkas in front of cameras is victory. Because to die in front of cameras is victory.
Image for Israel because for hezbollah to exist in front of all cameras and despite all their might is defeat. Because katioushkas even if it land on an empty field is defeat.Because notto be able to achieve their objectives in front of cameras is defeat.
For one side, surviving one more day is victory, death and destruction is victory. For the other side, victory means the other side not to exist. Inachievable.

06 August, 2006 19:35  
Anonymous Outraged! said...

anonymous 5:10, how do you know? where you standing there? "Or, let me guess was it hearsay? oh, let me guess again some other israeli spokesman/woman. Give me a break!

07 August, 2006 02:34  
Blogger PeaceMan said...

What does the Arabic word jihad mean?

One answer came last week, when Saddam Hussein had his Islamic leaders appeal to Muslims worldwide to join his jihad to defeat the "wicked Americans" should they attack Iraq; then he himself threatened the United States with jihad.

As this suggests, jihad is "holy war." Or, more precisely: It means the legal, compulsory, communal effort to expand the territories ruled by Muslims at the expense of territories ruled by non-Muslims.

The purpose of jihad, in other words, is not directly to spread the Islamic faith but to extend sovereign Muslim power (faith, of course, often follows the flag). Jihad is thus unabashedly offensive in nature, with the eventual goal of achieving Muslim dominion over the entire globe.

Jihad did have two variant meanings through the centuries, one more radical, one less so. The first holds that Muslims who interpret their faith differently are infidels and therefore legitimate targets of jihad. (This is why Algerians, Egyptians and Afghans have found themselves, like Americans and Israelis, so often the victims of jihadist aggression.) The second meaning, associated with mystics, rejects the legal definition of jihad as armed conflict and tells Muslims to withdraw from the worldly concerns to achieve spiritual depth.

Jihad in the sense of territorial expansion has always been a central aspect of Muslim life. That's how Muslims came to rule much of the Arabian Peninsula by the time of the Prophet Muhammad's death in 632. It's how, a century later, Muslims had conquered a region from Afghanistan to Spain. Subsequently, jihad spurred and justified Muslim conquests of such territories as India, Sudan, Anatolia, and the Balkans.

Today, jihad is the world's foremost source of terrorism, inspiring a worldwide campaign of violence by self-proclaimed jihadist groups:

The International Islamic Front for the Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders: Osama bin Laden's organization;
Laskar Jihad: responsible for the murder of more than 10,000 Christians in Indonesia;
Harakat ul-Jihad-i-Islami: a leading cause of violence in Kashmir;
Palestinian Islamic Jihad: the most vicious anti-Israel terrorist group of them all;
Egyptian Islamic Jihad: killed Anwar El-Sadat in 1981, many others since, and
Yemeni Islamic Jihad: killed three American missionaries on Monday.
But jihad's most ghastly present reality is in Sudan, where until recently the ruling party bore the slogan "Jihad, Victory and Martyrdom." For two decades, under government auspices, jihadists there have physically attacked non-Muslims, looted their belongings and killed their males.

Jihadists then enslaved tens of thousands of females and children, forced them to convert to Islam, sent them on forced marches, beat them and set them to hard labor. The women and older girls also suffered ritual gang-rape, genital mutilation and a life of sexual servitude.

Sudan's state-sponsored jihad has caused about 2 million deaths and the displacement of another 4 million - making it the greatest humanitarian catastrophe of our era.

07 August, 2006 15:44  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

outrage have you ever been too the region? Israel or Lebanon? I'd be willing to bet money you haven't, you need to learn the facts and wake up and SMELL THE COFFEE!!! I know your not going to change your mind about things, but Israel is a great country, and the people their only want too live in peace. But the radical Islamic fanatics only want war, and death, their brain washed, learn the truth, and don't believe everything you here from the news or your college professor, they have their own agenda.

07 August, 2006 17:55  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I declare my support the families vitimas of this genocidio. I want peace, I demand a free ONU of the interests of U.S.A.!


07 August, 2006 19:34  
Blogger Carmel said...

Jihad is a struggle, according to Sufism (Islam mystic) it's an inner struggle of a person. kabala, Jewish mystic sees "the promised land" as a body/soul story as well. look what happens when people take things literally.

please God, no more metaphors.

08 August, 2006 00:05  
Anonymous Ze Carioca said...

Anonymous - Brasil 19.34 - Oi amigo, vai para pinhamondengaba meu filho - Genocidio? Que genocidio? Talvez o genocidio dos Indios da Amazonia. Calas a boca padilha....

08 August, 2006 22:18  
Blogger Fertilise your mind. said...

Dear Lebanese,

Let not the zionists in Israel, or even the well intentioned 'peace lovers', fool you into an internal war by stroking your ego and igniting you to stand against Hizballah.

Hizballah started in 1982 as a direct result of the massacre of people in Sabra and Shatilla.

History proves that evilness results in more evilness.

The decision is not whether to support or oppose Hizbollah; the decision is to support or oppose Lebanese demands for an independent, liberated, sovereign country, without constant threats from the south to invade Lebanon (1982, 1996, 2006).

I pray for a Lebanon united in the face of any intruder - Israel, Syria, Iran or America.

12 August, 2006 15:06  

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